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Joint pain can be a symptom of the menopause
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Joint pain is one of the more common menopause symptoms and it can be one of the more debilitating as it reduces mobility and flexibility. Here, our menopause expert Eileen Durward talks about what triggers joint pain in the menopause, and how it can be eased through lifestyle changes and natural remedies.
Joint pain affects many people as they get older and is also common among menopausal women. Aches, stiffness and swelling around the joint and sometimes heat are typical symptoms of menopausal joint pain. These may be worse in the morning, improving as the day continues.
Joints which experience high impact such as the hips and knees tend to be most affected by this so called ’menopausal arthritis.’ Hands and fingers can also be affected. High impact exercise such as jogging can exacerbate the problem, although this is often eased with rest.
The hormone oestrogen has an important role in maintaining joint and bone health. It is not certain how it does this, but it is thought that it works by minimising swelling around the joint. As you reach the menopause, levels of oestrogen in your body begin to drop. This gives rise to common menopause symptoms including hot flushes and night sweats, and may also result in swollen and painful joints.
Dehydration can also cause joint pain because of a build up of uric acid which can cause inflammation in your joints. Oestrogen is also important for regulating fluid levels in your body, and with falling levels of the hormone, you find that your body is unable to retain water efficiently.
It is important to reduce the pressure of repetitive strain, such as jogging on hard roads, to protect your joints. At the same time though, keeping them flexible will reduce joint pain. Some exercises such as yoga and swimming are beneficial for strengthening your muscles and joints without exerting too much pressure on them.
Diet can have a positive influence on your joint health. Many fruit and vegetables have properties which reduce inflammation. Having a balanced diet is not only healthy and will help you with many menopause symptoms, but will keep your weight level correct. Being overweight will add extra stress onto your joints, increasing your problem.
Calcium is particularly important as it keeps your bones strong and healthy. As you are going through the menopause you may find a calcium supplement beneficial. However, for calcium to be absorbed into your bloodstream effectively, it is important to also have a high intake of magnesium, achieved by including nuts, wholegrains and dried fruit into your diet.
Alternatively, taking a calcium and magnesium supplement would provide some of the same benefits. Some women find that taking magnesium on its own is very effective, as it helps to relax tense muscles.
Stress, surprisingly, can have a negative effect on your joint health. If you are experiencing a lot of stress, your body will release high quantities of the hormone cortisol. This hormone works as an inflammatory agent, and so high levels of stress during the menopause will only make your joint pain worse. It is important if you tend to experience stress to take time to relax every day.
Alternative treatments such as massage or acupuncture help many women with their joint pain symptoms. They directly target the area of pain in order to ease the symptom.
Some women might experience ‘rheumatic’ type pains coming from the inside of a joint. This is where Devil’s Claw can help – it has a similar effect to that of steroids, although without the steroidal compounds, so without the associated side effects. The herb is gentle to the body and may take up to 4 weeks to work its way into the body.
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Conventional medicines for joint pain include painkillers and anti-inflammatories. However, they are not usually recommended for joint pain associated with the menopause as the pain is a symptom rather than the cause itself. To treat menopausal joint pain, your doctor may consider the use of HRT.
If your pain is severe, and home and herbal remedies are ineffective, then there may be another underlying cause. In this case, or if you are worried about your condition, it is important to talk to your doctor as he will be able to prescribe a treatment to help you.
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Geraldine — 11.02.2021 09:23
Hi ...I’m 54 and have a lot of soreness in my joints ...I have dryness in eyes and down there aswell .. should I go on hrt
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eileen — 11.02.2021 09:02
Hi Geraldine
I am really sorry but we can't make any recommendations about going on HRT; only your doctor can do this as they may need to take your age, symptoms and any other health issues into account.
Symptoms such as these can often be helped naturally with remedies such as Devil's Claw for the joints and Sea Buckthorn Oil capsules for the dry eyes and vagina.
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Patricia maguire — 17.04.2020 02:42
My hand are so sore if I take hrt will the pain go
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Eileen — 17.04.2020 09:57
Hi Patricia
This is something you would need to ask your doctor, we are unable to give advice on HRT, sorry
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Bridget — 18.01.2020 08:08
I am having extreme burning pain in both knees that incteases with walking or other activities. I had a right meniscus surgery 4 months ago and I am still having pain. More than before surgery. Just wondering if perenopause could be adding to.the situation
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Eileen — 20.01.2020 12:00
Hi Bridget
It is best to get this checked out again by your doctor just to make sure there is nothing amiss with the operation site.
But, yes, falling hormones can affect the joints so it could be a contributory factor. If your periods have started to tail off or have stopped then you could try the Menopause Support; this is known to gently raise and balance oestrogen and you could also add in the Devils Claw which is used as a natural anti-inflammatory.
https://www.avogel.co.uk/herbal-remedies/soy-isoflavones/
https://www.avogel.co.uk/herbal-remedies/devils-claw-atrosan/
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Susan — 15.01.2020 13:45
Hi Eileen,
I'm quite lucky, because I don't feel much of my menopause, but I do get the odd hot flush, mood swing and my joints sometimes ache a bit, so I'd like to try out Menopause Support. However, I have regular migraines with an aura (I take Topamax on a low dosage) and can't take any medication with estrogene. Is Menopause Support safe for me to take?
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Eileen — 17.01.2020 06:49
Hi Susan
We tend not to recommend the Menopause Support in this situation, sorry. However, for the odd hot flush, you could take the sage tincture. Magnesium can often help; if you are not taking any you may find starting on a low dose and gradually increasing it over a month or two can be of benefit.
Acupuncture may be helpful for both the migraines and the hormones so worth checking out. You can find a local practitioner through www.acupuncture.org.uk
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Helen Beech — 22.07.2019 19:25
I am suffering severely with joint pain and would be happy to try Devils claw however I would like to ask if it would affect my thyroxine medication. I am currently taking levothyroxin on a daily basis
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Eileen — 23.07.2019 06:17
Hi Helen, There are no known side effects with Devils claw herbal remedy. It should be fine to take along with your thyroid medication.
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Kerry — 11.07.2019 04:20
I’m 45 and I’m going through the menopause and my body is changing I need help my body is in pain
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Eileen — 11.07.2019 06:29
Hi Kerry
I have posted a video blog on joint pain and what you can do to help yourself so please do take a look. However, if you are in a lot of pain it is advisable to see your doctor as well just in case this is not related to the menopause.
http://www.avogel.co.uk/health/menopause/eileens-blog/2015/12/a-vogels-menopause-mondays-joint-aches-pains/
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Iyabo popoola — 01.05.2019 04:06
Am what are the reasons for joint pains and remedy
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Eileen — 02.05.2019 09:07
Hi Lyabo
I have posted a video blog on this so please do take a look. http://www.avogel.co.uk/health/menopause/eileens-blog/2015/12/a-vogels-menopause-mondays-joint-aches-pains/
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Ciara — 17.02.2019 19:32
I'm 46, have aches and pains in elbows, hope and right side of body.
I'm finding it hard to lose weight. I don't eat many carbs.
Is there any supplenent to help my body feel energetic and lose fluid and fat
Thank you.
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Eileen — 19.02.2019 12:11
Hi Ciara
You could try the herb Siberian Ginseng as this is known to help with energy. Fluid build-up is often caused by dehydration so taking a diuretic may make symptoms worse; drinking lots of plain water every day can often be really helpful for many symptoms including fatigue!
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Alita — 08.11.2018 01:40
Hi it’s been a hard two months for me. Woke up one morn8ng and could barely walk, my legs, thighs, arms made me feel like I worked out all night. Hot flashes started to increase. I thought I was go8ng to die. I started taking Citracal Calcium Citrate Supplements with manganese and zinc. Still waiting for my joints to feel better,if I sit too long i my joints get so stiff until I start walking.... I fear I will never feel 100% again. I turn 49 this year.
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Eileen — 08.11.2018 11:54
Hi Alita
It is important to go and see your doctor about this. Any sudden appearence of joint pain could indicate other health issues such as low iron, low thyroid function or low vitamin D, your doctor can test for these just to rule them out. In the meantime I have posted a more comprehensive video blog on how you can help yourself so please do take a look.
http://www.avogel.co.uk/health/menopause/eileens-blog/2015/12/a-vogels-menopause-mondays-joint-aches-pains/
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Caprice — 27.11.2018 18:59
Omg! I feel the same way! I’ve had terrible headaches! My back knees, and legs hurt! I have been feeling like my life is ending. I’ve had MRI’s, Ct’s, blood work. I’ve been feeling like I will never be 100% again too! I just turned 49 last month! I am beginning to think the doctors and everyone else thinks I am crazy!
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Alita Barbee — 27.11.2018 23:53
Yep- I thought I was dying too. I started taking a Citracal supplement with D3. I have to say it has helped.
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Sherrie — 15.12.2018 18:55
I thought I was going crazy..I woke up one morning about 2 months ago and my knees hips ankles shoulder and back were in so much pain. My knees hips and back severely. I just turned 49 know September and I feel so helpless some days. I dont know what to do.
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Eileen — 17.12.2018 09:50
Hi Sherrie
Hopefully the tips above will be of benefit for you but if you are worried please see your doctor as well.
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Britta — 18.01.2019 00:35
That happened with me at 47. I got real hormones, hrt, and the aches went away. When I forget to take the pill, the joint pain comes back immediately.
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Gloria — 14.03.2019 21:43
I turned 49 in November and I’ce Been feeling the same way my hips and upper arms near my shoulders you, I’m not alone, thank you.
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Maria — 10.07.2019 09:38
I am having the same problems.My body aches terribly all day but seems worse when I wake up.I have wrestles legs also.My joints hurt so badly I wanna cry.I have nausea,cant sleep and am always fatigued! Fed up with it all.I feel for you and know what your having to deal with.
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Sandra — 11.07.2019 03:32
I am feeling the same way. Like you I fear not to be 100% again. On top of that I have severe anxiety
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Leondra Roberts — 19.10.2018 17:42
Hi it’s been one year since I was diagnosed with advanced ovarian cancer at 45. I had optimal full debulking surgery followed by chemo. I am so sore all the time and can not take any oestrogen as this is the hormone that caused my cancer. Do you have any advice that might help my mobility?
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Eileen — 22.10.2018 08:24
Hi Leondra
The herb Devils Claw is often used for joint and/or muslce pain and fish oil supplements are known to help with mobility but you would need to discuss using these with your doctor or consultant first. Acupuncture can often be effective so worth looking into especially if you can find a practitioner who specialised in pain management. You can find a local practitioner through www.acupuncture.org.uk
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Rachel — 05.01.2019 18:00
Hi leondra , ive been searching for advice too after i was diagnosed with ovarian cancer a year ago . After my operation and 6 rounds of chemo i have a lot of joint pain from my waist down and unsure if it was connected to chemo or menopause and not sure what i can or cannot take . Ive tried massage and centrum vitamins as well as vitamin d . Ive had alot of advice but nothing seems to of helped so like you im looking for advice . I hope your doing well now xx
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Eileen — 07.01.2019 07:36
Hi Rachel,
The advice I have given above may help you too, but (as explained above) you will need to talk it through with your consultant too.
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Laura — 09.07.2018 04:06
June of 2016 I had a total hysterectomy with removal of my ovaries. I was 54 yrs of age & in peri menopausal stage. I went into surgical menopause which the last two years until presently it’s been and is a HUGE challenge for me with the symptoms since shortly after my hysterectomy. If I could go back in time I never would have had my ovaries out! Unfortunately, I was not educated enough regarding the ramifications from the removal of the ovaries along with uterus. I’ve developed joint pain in my legs on a frequent basis with sometimes it’s debilitating where my feet, or my calves my joints, and hip hurt so much I can barely walk! It’s unfortunate that it’s a “catch 22”, with taking hormone replacement or not! I now have increased anxiety including panic attacks, ansomina, dry eyes with pain behind my eyes and all the joint pain including hot flashes! Not to mention I become very scattered with my fogged memory! Every now and then, I say to my husband, “ I feel fantastic today”!!! This is when I don’t have any pains in any joints and I feel on top of the world! I feel clear headed with so much energy and feel myself ! Unfortunately, this is far and few and in between these symptoms! I’m a very positive, truly happy and have lots of energy and full of joy and life! This has been and is a battle that I pray I get the right person to guide me in the right direction so I can feel the fullness of my health which I’m used too! I changed my Gynecologist as there was no directions with my menapause at all except for him to prescribe estrodoil and tell me to google things regarding obtaining things I can do. I then changed Gynecologist and she left the practice and went to work in Another area of Florida.
Just about 2 months ago I began the bio identical hormones. Estrace, estrogen cream and progesterone capsule daily. I still get hot flashes recently again, some horrible and some mild. And the joint pain along with my tightness in the calf are frustrated to me.
Any feedback is extremely appreciated!!
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Eileen — 10.07.2018 10:45
Hi Laura
Unfortunately, a total hysterectomy can cause a number of problems which can be hard to resolve. Suddenly losing the main source of hormones will fling you straight into a full menopause and this can not only drain you of energy very quickly but can also really stress the nervous system. This can then be compounded by the sudden appearance of menopause symptoms. This scenario of symptoms stressing the nervous system and the nervous system causing more symptoms or making the ones you have worse can quickly become a vicious cycle that you can't break out of. I would suggest going to see a Naturopathic Doctor, they can offer advice on supporting and strengthening the nervous system including treatments such as acupuncture, herbal remedies and diet support. By treating the whole body this can often help to reduce symptoms effectively.
In the meantime remember to drink lots of plain water for the joints, take a magnesium supplement 200mg twice a day and a fish oil 1000mg twice a day, both with food and overhaul your diet to include lots of fresh foods. Avoid caffeine, white carbs, sugar and high salt foods. Rest and relaxation is important to allow your body to re-balance itself.
Do let me know how you get on.
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Laura — 11.07.2018 03:13
Thank you so much Eileen for all your helpful feedback and recommendations.
It does feel like a vicious cycle with the several symptoms I have gotten since my total hysterectomy. I will see a Naturopathic Doctor along with acupuncture. It’s interesting that you are the third person that spoke of acupuncture within the last couple weeks. I do take 1200 mg of calcium each day, 1000 mg of vitamin D3 and magnesium every day. I will alter some of my foods and beverages. Typically, I eat healthy food, however, I do eat foods with too much salt, I eat some foods with white flour and Diet Coke with caffeine. I will eliminate these foods as much as possible and replace with healthy foods. I will drink more natural water, more fruits and vegetables etc...I do eat these healthy foods, however, I should eliminate the not so good foods.
The biggest challenge for me is the joint pain in my legs and feet and the anxiety I get. I am going to do all I possibly can as I want to feel way better than I have. I’m a very active healthy positive person and desire to feel great physically like I always use too!
Thank you again for taking the time to respond which means a lot to me! I’m grateful for your wealth of knowledge in caring to share so much knowledge with me and so many others!
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Eileen — 11.07.2018 09:11
Hi Laura
You're welcome!
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Lisa — 19.12.2018 13:19
Please add potassium to your list of supplements. You should be getting 4700 mg per day of potassium...maybe more since hot flashes make you sweat it out. Black beans (black turtle beans) contain 2,760 mg per cup, an avocado has almost 900, Jerusalem artichokes have nearly 900 too. When progesterone levels fall, potassium is harder to absorb. Additionally, when estrogen levels fall, magnesium becomes harder to absorb. Make sure you are getting a lot of fermented food to ensure proper breakdown and absorption of your vitamins and minerals. Gut bacteria is just as important, if not more so, than your vitamins. If it isn't there, vitamins and minerals will not help your body. Additionally, check out Lugol's iodine. Iodine is a building block in your body. Mist people barely get enough. Looking up Iodine protocol and review testimonials for it on Amazon. Good luck! Hope this journey is over soon!
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J Davies — 26.09.2017 07:17
Hi just joined can I use devils claw along side the starter pack when it arrives?
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Eileen — 26.09.2017 11:12
Hello.
Devil's claw tincture is fine to take along with the Menopause support tablets.
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Michelle — 23.09.2017 07:05
I was 36 when my symptoms started
Night sweats, hot flushes,
Doctors dismissed my symptoms and put it down to stress. Then my periods became irregular by the time I was 40 periods had stopped
My joint pains were horrendous in shoulders to the point I was becoming a pain killer junkie.
I had cortisone injections
I changed doctors and finally was listened to.
I was very reluctant to start HRT and in actual fact find start taking it until o was 45 so 5 years of my doc trying to persuade me, and omg what a difference it made to my joint pains.
I do have arthritis in both Shoulders and hips, but some taking my HRT I've gone from pill popping every 4 hours to virtually zero.
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Eileen — 26.09.2017 11:12
Has your doctor advised that you continue HRT indefinitely, Michelle?
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Michelle — 27.09.2017 19:15
No nothing has been said about indefdinately.
But I went to gynacholgist who also advised me to take the hrt.
The problem is there is a risk with breast cancer but I've been told by a few doctors that the studies done on breast cancer and hrt were done on ladies in the 50s when breast cancer is more likely.
Also was told the body shouldn't be getting rid of these hormones until into the 50s so hrt isn't a worry for those under 50.
Hrt also protects don't quote me but I think they said the lining of the womb.
It's definitely made a massive change to my life.
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Michelle — 27.09.2017 19:15
No nothing has been said about indefdinately.
But I went to gynacholgist who also advised me to take the hrt.
The problem is there is a risk with breast cancer but I've been told by a few doctors that the studies done on breast cancer and hrt were done on ladies in the 50s when breast cancer is more likely.
Also was told the body shouldn't be getting rid of these hormones until into the 50s so hrt isn't a worry for those under 50.
Hrt also protects don't quote me but I think they said the lining of the womb.
It's definitely made a massive change to my life.
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Eileen — 28.09.2017 08:44
Hi Michelle,
I'm so glad you have a solution to your problem currently. My advice ongoing would be to talk to your consultant about when (and if) you have to come off HRT, as you will benefit from doing it really slowly over as long a period as possible, to avoid a recurrence of your initial symptoms.
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Julie Clark — 22.09.2017 07:42
Hello there. I am 59 and had my last period just 18 months ago. I have suffered almost every menopausal symptom imaginable over the past 10 years or so and thought I would be finally be over most of them, however, these past few months I am suffering quite a lot with aches and pains in my legs (not when I'm resting, just when I'm trying to move about) and also lower back pain from time to time. The aches seem to start in my groin and go down my legs.....I have suffered with fibroids in the past but thought they would have shrunk by now. I'm reluctant to go to the doctors as I don't want to be put on HRT and surely I must be nearing the end of all these horrible menopausal symptoms as I will be 60 next year.....Just wondered your thoughts on these horrible leg aches and pains. Thank you
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eileen — 22.09.2017 10:27
Hi Julie
Back pain can often irritate the nerves to the legs causing pains that could go down to the feet. I would suggest going to see a Chiropractor who can check everything for you and offer treatment if necessary. 10 years is quite a long time to be going through the menopause, have you had regular checks on your thyroid levels, vitamin D and iron? These can all appear mid-life and cause menopause-like symptoms. If not, it is a good idea to ask your doctor to test for them just to rule them out.
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M — 05.06.2019 09:13
Just remember you are in charge of what prescriptions you ingest. Don't avoid doctors, just keep searching for one who listens, takes you seriously. It is not easy, been there. Experiencing hip, wrist, knee burning and stiffness. Doctors typically are simply not aware of the multitude of symptoms associated with this, which can make you question your own theories. It is a VERY hard time of life for many of us. I wish doctors had better education on all the side effects of hormones and could give better advice.
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Eileen — 11.06.2019 05:38
Hi M
Thank you for your helpful comments.
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Kirsten — 19.09.2017 06:06
Hello, I am 58, menopausal, hypothyroid, and am taking 125 micrograms of Levothyroxine daily. I'm also taking Bendroflumethiazide, Citalopram and Mebiverine. I understand that I am unable to take certain complimentary medicines and supplements including calcium, as there are contraindications. Can you please tell me if any of the supplements you suggest to help with menopausal symptoms are safe to take with my prescribed medication? Thank you.
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eileen — 19.09.2017 07:54
Hi Kirsten,
There are no contraindications listed with taking Menoforce Sage tablets, Menopause Support and Devils Claw with your medications. Although Menopause Support has soya in it, it is fermented so is different to whole soya foods such as soya milk which should be avoided.
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Monica Elizabeth Hamid — 18.09.2017 09:44
Send me some more information on vitamins for post menopause
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eileen — 19.09.2017 07:54
Hi Monica
I would suggest a good strength multivit (making sure there is enough B vits (approx. 30mg of the main ones), plus an extra cal/mag supplement (with a small amount of D3, if possible) and a fish oil supplement. If you have a good varied diet you shouldn't need anything else.
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Judy — 04.09.2017 13:48
Hello ! My question is, i had a partial hysterectomy in 2001. My ovaries were left, they were in good health. Im going to be 51 next month, and have been experiencing hot flashes, weight gain, and the horrific anxiety. If im not anxious, i want to cry.... would this be menopause? I found your sites, and the info is life saving..i thought i was going crazy . My GP put me on 20 mg of paxil, can i still use your products ? Thank you so much !
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eileen — 04.09.2017 15:38
Hi Judy
When your ovaries are left you tend to have the menopause at roughly the same time you would have done had you not had the operation. You are in the average age range 45-55 so it is possible that you are entering the menopause - your symptoms are classic low oestrogen ones.
There are no contraindications with your medication so the Menopause Support should be fine to take. Great to hear that the info has been of help!
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Annmarie — 04.09.2017 10:17
Looking forward to seeing if Menopause Support with help
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sarah hardaker — 22.08.2017 00:22
I'm 45 going through the Mp and having bad joint pains/
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eileen — 22.08.2017 12:07
HI Sarah
Hopefully the tips above will be of help for you but do get this checked out by your doctor as well, just in case it is not related to the menopause.
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Carolann Henderson — 18.08.2017 18:03
I am a49year old nurse & struggling with joint pain & mood swings.
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eileen — 21.08.2017 12:01
Hello Carolann, I hope this page has been helpful. Try Atrosan Devils Claw to help joint aches and pain and the Menopause support tablets is a plant based remedy to help lots of symptoms caused by the menopause, they can help you feel more robust if your emotions are up and down. It also contains a little magnesium which can help mood and relax muscles. If you are unsure you can ask the doctor to test your hormone levels to clarify the situation for you.
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Roop kaur — 17.08.2017 01:01
I am 55 years old.. lately have been having hot flushes and
Mylegs are very painful.. my last period was about 3 to 4 years ago
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eileen — 17.08.2017 09:11
Hi Roop
Usually your menopause symptoms would have started to tail off by now so if you suddenly start to get menopause-like symptoms there may be other causes. I would suggest asking your doctor to test you for low iron, low thyroid function, low vitamin D and B12, just to rule them out. In the meantime remember to drink lots of water, in the summer we need more water but if you don't increase it and the weather gets really hot you can get dehydrated very quickly. Dehydration can cause both flushes and joint/muscle pain! Stress can be another factor so if you have had a period of stress/anxiety this could be a trigger and in which case you may find taking a magnesium supplement 200mg twice a day beneficial.
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Oshi — 14.08.2017 20:37
I am 50 years old and my last period was 2 years ago. Thought I had got away with an easy menopause as the flushes were manageable and no big mood swings. However I have started to get awful joint pains and have had a frozen shoulder for 8 months. I have had neck pain for about 2 years and now when I wake the whole of the top of my body hurts, particularly my elbows which are agony when I try to straighten my arms. The pain lasts around half an hour and eases off during the day. I am seeing a naturopath, upping my fluid intake and giving up dairy. Hope that will help
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Eileen — 16.08.2017 10:51
Hi Oshi
Do let me know how you get on!
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Ese — 25.12.2018 06:55
I am 44years old and I am be having hot flash, muscle attack and body pain and I have pain on my feet and my fingers. Especially in the night i can not sleep and i 2016 December and now again going to 2 weeks now, my doctor said i
should be taking pain relief but it did not help
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Debbie H — 08.08.2017 05:07
I'm having very bad hot flushes. Joint pains in fingers, knees and neck. I'm not sure if I can take some herbal medicine as I have been told I have CKD stage 3. My kidney function is around 57 so it's just below the 60 which they say is normal function. I'm sure it's probably where I don't drink enough during the day, especially in the hot weather. I'm also suffering some anxiety and low mood which is very unlike me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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eileen — 16.08.2017 10:51
Hi Debbie
Please can you let me know if you have had a personal reply to this, thanks
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Debbie — 16.08.2017 16:22
No I haven't had a personal reply
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Alison Rose — 01.08.2017 07:22
Help required as not able to stop aching muscles
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eileen — 01.08.2017 15:12
Hi Alison
You may find a combination of magnesium and lots of plain water can help with this, I would suggest 200mg mag twice a day. However, if this doesn't start to show benefit after a few weeks then it is a good idea to get this checked out by your doctor just to rule out any other underlying cause.
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Alison — 01.08.2017 20:32
Thank you
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Vivian — 29.07.2017 09:37
I always have back pain and joints pain everynight or when I wake up. My menstruation stop last april 2017 . I always got a massage everyweek or 2x a week and 10 minutes exercise everyday and also I hv burping and farting sometimes. I dont know if those are from menopause pls let me know about it. Thank you very much.
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eileen — 31.07.2017 10:14
Hi Vivian
Well done for exercising regularly, this is very important in the menopause!
You may find the Devils Claw helpful for the joint pains and remember to drink lots of plain water, this can often make a difference really quickly!
Falling oestrogen can affect the digestion so it is possible your symptoms are linked. I would suggest cutting down your carbohydrate intake (ie bread, pasta, white rice, cakes, biscuits, pizza etc) and have more veg in your diet. Dehydration can also be a factor so the water may help here too.
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Elaine — 28.07.2017 19:39
Hi I have been getting really bad joint pains mainly hips and knees but my bloods have all come back normal. I'm 51 in a few weeks still have periods but the doctor said its not the menopause. I have started having these mini flushes they last a few minutes. My gp is sending me for physio but I feel it may be the start of the menopause. Can your hormones be normal still my gp said not but I carnt find any other reason. I also feel tired most of the time but mainly getting in and out of the car or bending down is so painful. Pain killers don't work but ibuprofen helps a little.
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eileen — 31.07.2017 10:14
Hi Elaine
Blood tests for the menopause are not particularly accurate as your hormone levels fluctuate throughout the day. If you were on a high hormone day then tests can come back negative. If you have been experiencing menopause symptoms and are in the average age range (45-55) then it is possible you are on the way!
Did you get your vitamin D levels checked as well, this test is often not included and we do know that low vitamin D can cause joint aches as well.
You may find taking our Menopause Support can help generally as this is known to gently raise oestrogen and Devils Claw can help with the inflammation and pain. Remember to drink loads of plain water as dehydration can be a big factor!
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Elaine — 05.08.2017 20:13
Hi Eileen thank u for your reply I do think it is the menopause carnt put it down to anything else. I did have vitamin d checked all were normal. I will try the physio it may help and I will try the menopause support and let u know how I get on. Thanks again.
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Julie — 23.07.2017 08:43
Articles on joint pain so helpful begining to make so much sense will be making a DR's appointment tomorrow.
Julie
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eileen — 24.07.2017 08:48
Hi Julie
Do let me know how you get on.
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Rynette — 22.07.2017 10:41
I hate feeling this way...im achy headachy and moody...help pls
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eileen — 24.07.2017 08:48
Hi Rynette
Hopefully the Menopause Support can help but do remember to drink lots of water as dehydration can cause headaches and mood swings!
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Claire — 22.07.2017 07:27
Hi hate the way this is making me feel, I'm so active, play golf, horse ride, walk my dogs, I'm 45, I'm so tired all the time, i literally sleep 8 hours a night and wake up like a zombie, I have a healthy diet apart from chocolate, I don't drink alcohol, I drink water like it's going out of fashion, I'm putting weight on, which is a no no, so cutting down, which is not great, my joints ache a lot, I do Pilates and yoga, but still ache. I don't want to feel this way, getting me down ☹️
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eileen — 24.07.2017 08:48
Hi Claire
It is a good idea to get your iron, thyroid function and vitamin D levels checked as these can all cause fatigue (and thyroid can figure in stubborn weight gain). Fatigue at this time also indicates that your body is struggling with all the hormonal changes going on so if you do a lot of exercise at this point you are stressing the body further. At this stage having a rest day after each exercise day is really important to allow your body to recuperate and re-energise. Once your energy returns then you can increase your exercise.
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Tina — 13.07.2017 21:20
I suffer terrible joint pain. It does affect my social life. Started to take devils claw drops five days ago. When should I see the affects of this. And at the same time taking menopause support. I can deal with hot flush. But my joint pain does get me down. Worse at night especially shoulders, elbows , knees and fingers. And my back and hip hurt during the day. Does anyone else experience this plz. Would be nice to know I'm not going crazy on my own
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eileen — 14.07.2017 09:11
Hi Tina
Joint pain is really common in the menopause, no 3 in our top ten list!
The Devils Claw does tend to work quite quickly, most people will see the start of benefit after a couple of weeks if not sooner. Hopefully taking this and the Menopause Support will help. Remember to drink lots of plain water as dehydration is a big factor in joint pain and taking as small shot glass of warm water just before bed can often help reduce discomfort during the night.
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Kath — 28.01.2019 05:51
Hi
I too suffer with pain in my lower back and my hips, I exercise everyday, I do aerobics, modern pilates, body pump and yoga plus walk my dog, my fsh levels are high, I have under active thyroid my levothyroxine was upped a while ago and levels are ok now. I take fish oil high strength capsules, black cohosh, biotin (as I was losing my hair) acidophilus 3 billion, flaxseed capsules too, I try to clean eat as much as possible and drink water. I wanted to ask if the devils claw cream would work the same as the tablets or is it drops?
I can cope with hot flashes, it's the lower back and hip pain that is getting me down.
Thanks in advance.
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Eileen — 29.01.2019 12:50
Hi Kath
Well done for looking after yourself well, this is really important!
A Devil's Claw cream or gel is unlikely to be of any benefit, we researched this a number of years ago and found very little efficacy. The tincture is the best as it is tends to work quicker than tablets. Acupuncture can often be of benefit for this so worth looking into as well.
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Jacqueline — 09.06.2019 21:58
I get really bad pain just under my hip left side mainly when I lay down can’t even sleep on it sometimes
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Annet — 10.07.2017 17:20
Breast cancer is in my family . Is it safe for me to take Menopause support as it has Soya beans in it?
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Eileen — 11.07.2017 14:50
Hello Annet,
The Menopause Support tablets contain fermented soya isoflavones and these are processed differently from unfermented soya. I can provide research info for you regarding breast cancer and Soya isoflavones if you wish.
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Marva — 07.07.2017 01:43
Am having real pain in my shoulders, like getting a beating .I will be 50 this month end.sometimes my right shoulder can't go up ,I have to use my left hand to push it up
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Eileen — 07.07.2017 08:04
Hello Marva, Sorry to hear that you are not feeling well. Joint or shoulder pain or issues can be caused by a number of issues, like trauma, injury, posture, tension or hormonal shift. I would suggest that you let the doctor know, once you know the root cause; we can then see what the next step is, in terms of treatment.
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Helen — 08.07.2017 11:37
I'd say frozen shoulder; ask your GP for physio appointments, as I did. The exercises ease it, but it can take months to go completely
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Colette — 28.06.2017 14:55
Can I use menopause support from a Vogel with my other daily vitamins?
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eileen — 29.06.2017 12:13
Hi Colette
There are no contraindications so it should be fine but just double check the total amount of magnesium you would be taking. As long as it is around or below 600mg total, daily that is fine.
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Angie — 21.06.2017 06:40
I am 52 and a music instructor my hands are really painful n the morning
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eileen — 22.06.2017 09:42
Hi Angie
You may find taking the Devils Claw and a fish oil supplement can help to ease the joint pain. Symptoms in the morning can often indicate that you have become dehydrated during the night so remember to drink lots of water during the day and try a little shot glass of warm water just before bed. You could also try the Arnica Gel as this often works quickly to ease pain and discomfort.
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Diane — 14.06.2017 16:36
I'm 44 and on the menapause, Iv been with a personal trainer but I'm finding my bones all sore so much so I can hardly walk , feel stupid but the pain is real
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eileen — 15.06.2017 12:30
Hi Diane
Unfortunately, at this point doing lots of exercise if your joints are sore is not a good idea both from the pain and also the exercise can irritate the joints further making things worse. I tend to suggest really gentle exercise such as yoga, Pilates, Tai Chi or swimming just to keep you moving. The Devils Claw may be of benefit alongside the Menopause Support. Low magnesium and calcium can also be an issue so it may be an idea to take a good supplement.
Acupuncture can often work well for both joint pain and balancing the hormones.
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shirley shodeke — 02.06.2017 12:50
I used to do so much exercise just a year ago now finding it hard to get back to due to sciatica pain which gets worse when I walk. I get so many aches and pains now stops me doing much which makes things worse and feel bloated too
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eileen — 02.06.2017 13:34
Hi Shirley
Do get this checked out by your doctor just in case it is not related to the menopause. If it is the why not try the water and see if you can tweak your diet, sometimes this can make a difference quite quickly!
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Dee Newman — 21.05.2017 03:30
Hi I am 50 and started the menopause, I am always on the go, never sit still although not particularly a gym person.
For the past couple of months my hands have been swollen so much so that I cant even put my rings on and the joints are painful and stiff.
I eat very healthy, cut out salt years ago, dont use sugar, cook everything myself etc - do enjoy the odd glass of wine :)
Have put on around a stone since menopause even though my diet not really changed.
Anything I can do ?
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eileen — 23.05.2017 07:18
Hi Dee
It is a good idea to get the swelling checked out by your doctor just in case it is not related to the menopause. Your diet seems to be good but in the menopause falling oestrogen can affect our ability to deal with carbohydrates and this can often result in weight gain. You could try a low carb diet for a couple of months to see if this helps. Unfortunately, our metabolism can slow down too and that can be another factor. Sometimes just slightly decreasing your daily calorie intake can be of benefit as well. Remember to drink loads of plain water as dehydration can affect the joints and also cause water retention!
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patricia moncrief — 13.05.2017 18:07
I seem to have flare ups of stiffness. I can be fine for a few days and then one day I have stiffness in my joints. Especially behind my knees. When I bend down it hurts to get back up. My hips also hurt. I have been in menopause for 2 years now. At night after i fall asleep, i wake back up with tingling and sweats. It's the same routine every night. After that I seem to be ok.
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eileen — 15.05.2017 10:40
Hi Patricia
Do you find these flare ups happen monthly or thereabouts? Although your hormones are falling there can still be a bit of a regular cycle and when your oestrogen dips at any point this could trigger the flare-ups. Maybe keep a diary for a few months to see if there is some kind of pattern. Could also be something you are eating or drinking so keep a food diary too. Main culprits for joint flare-ups are wheat, alcohol, caffeine, high salt and sugar foods, citrus fruits and also stress/anxiety!
Tingling and sweats are often caused by a surge of adrenaline as you start to relax and fall asleep. Dehydration could be a factor so try having a small shot glass of warm water just before bed and take a magnesium supplement with your evening meal, these can often help.
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Sarah — 01.04.2017 08:50
Hi, I'm 47 and have been suffering from severe pain in both my elbows for nearly a year now ! I'm on a natural diet at the moment bit still no change:-( have been reading your articles and will buy some magnesium and calcium supplements to see if this helps.
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eileen — 03.04.2017 09:09
Hi Sarah
Unfortunately, joint pains are really common but it is still a good idea to get a check up from your doctor as well. Calcium and magnesium can often help but I would also suggest a fish oil supplement as well and don't forget the water!
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Barb — 12.05.2017 17:08
I bought magnesium tabs and joint pain vanished within 24 hours!
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eileen — 15.05.2017 11:46
Hi Barb
Fantastic!
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Sherrie — 21.06.2017 19:05
Thanks for sharing I have terrible joint pain and hip pain. I will try magnesium tabs along with Devils Claw. OMG something has to give.
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eileen — 22.06.2017 12:09
Hi Sherrie
Remember the water! Acupuncture can often be good too so worth looking into.
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Andrea palmer — 24.03.2017 09:27
Hi, I'm 52 and have been suffering with stiff and very painful muscles in neck and back, have just been diagnosed with ostioarthritis in my hands. Since my periods stopped about 3 months ago my headaches and migraine have got so much worse. On average at least one migraine per 2 weeks and headaces around 3 per week. My neck seems to be causing a lot of the pain. Iv been put on Nurotrypterline which has helped a bit but don't like taking it. I need to work so do take the meds. I really don't want to take HRT but I don't know what else to do as I'm a photographer and run my own business, so love my job but finding it so haRd with all my pain and headaces. I'm very fit and do walk and take gentle work out for 30 mins a day at my local gym. I eat plenty of veg and fruit and don't eat processed food. No caffeine, no alcohol, low salt and limited suger treats to one a week. Do you have any suggestions as to what I can do, or take to get me through this difficult stage.
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Eileen — 24.03.2017 14:59
Andrea Sorry that you are having such a difficult time.
You could try our Menopause Support tablets to help balance the hormones, it is not as harsh as HRT. Low oestrogen can affect hydration in the joints causing inflammation or aches and pain. if you already have an existing health condition this can often be a very frustrating time. Although the Menopause support tablets contain a little magnesium you could always add in another magnesium supplement to ease tension headaches and help relax muscles. Remember to drink plenty of plain water throughout the day too, as dehydration can be a culprit especially if you have a busy lifestyle and it would be a good idea to check your posture or if you feel your shoulders and neck are sore.
Atrogel Arnica gel can be used topically to aid stiffness, and can be really handy. If you feel the headaches are not improving it is important to let the doctor know. Let me know how you get on !
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sam marmont — 22.03.2017 15:27
Hi , my joints are hurting so much comes and goes , and bloating is awful , I've always looked after myself and been so happy but feel so low, im 49 @on a mild hrt which helped yo start with x
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Eileen — 23.03.2017 14:20
Hello Sam, The fall in oestrogen levels can affect the hydration of the joints during the menopause, causing aches and pain and stiffness. As the hormones rise and fall symptoms can change, so it may be that your HRT needs to be reviewed, if you feel it is no longer working for you. You could try Devil's Claw herbal remedy to ease inflammation in the joints.Drink plenty of plain water throughout the day to nourish your body and avoid constipation. Dehydration can be a culprit here. A Vogel stock a product called Molkosan to help reduce bloating and be used to kick start your day. I hope this information is useful.
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Christina — 15.03.2017 09:46
hi I have stopped my hormones6 months ago an I have stiff fingers every morning an pain is that because I stopped my hormone tablet s
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Eileen — 17.03.2017 14:31
Hi I am not sure if you have come off the hormonal medication gradually or not or what type it is? However, there are a few remedies that may help reduce these symptoms, such as, the Devils claw herbal remedy to aid inflammation, taken with a long with a cup of Nettle tea or (our remedy Uritca as this is helpful for Gout like symptoms or arthritic conditions), and look out for a magnesium supplement to help with joint aches and pain.
Try to drink plenty of plain water throughout the day to nourish your body and avoid caffeine or high salt or processed foods as these can make symptoms worse. Try gentle exercises to keep the circulation moving. I hope this helps and if you would like further assistance email me at eileen@avogel.co.uk
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